How much to pay?
If people are asking too much, don't bother. In the 90's the Figaro importers were working at full tilt and the public demand jacked prices up to the £10k mark. But since then the prices have been dropping like a stone despite their cheeky cute looks, but don't fret, around 2007 the prices seemed to bottom out at £4500 for a good one. In 2013 the auction price for a good one is up to around £5000. If you look at Autotrader and average out the prices this is about accurate. But that won't stop people asking silly money. But also remember that prices are rising and as this car becomes viewed as more of a classic the prices will rocket. We are seeing the touch paper lit in the last few years. So 2013 seems to be a good time to buy before it gets silly.Making the initial call.
Asking the right questions in the call will save you a lot of driving around. Here are some hints and tips.- When dialing a private seller call and say "I am calling about the car". If the answer is which one then you are talking to a dealer. While this may not be too much of a problem, it isn't exactly a good start.
- Does the roof leak? - a common problem which can be a bit pricey to fix.
- Any rust at all? - roof or rear wheel arches are common areas for spots. Answers like "Well, it's a 20 year old car" or anything else evasive should start ringing alarm bells.
- If the car is >50k miles
- Has the cam belt been changed?
- Has the water pump been changed?
- Has the tensioner been changed?
- Has another other major work been done? - Major work having been done can be considered a good thing, these are old cars, so head gasket seals, new roof, cambelt, etc.
- When was it last serviced and MOT'ed? Has it had regular servicing? 6 months is ideal, 12 months at least.
- Any dinks, bangs or accidents at all?
- How does it run? Sound? Does it start well? Any blue smoke?
- Any leaks? Any oil spots on the driveway?
- Why are you selling? - Put yourself in their shoes, sound genuine? If you are not sure, walk away. Gut instinct could save you a lot of trouble.
- Are you willing for the AA to inspect this independently? You don't have to do this, but the answer will give you more of an idea who you are dealing with.
- Is the car registered to your name and your address? Do you have the V5 documents?
- Ask if it has ever failed to start in "park". This is a simple fix, but worth knowing if it has been done.
The Viewing
Bodywork & roof
- Check for dinks
- Check panel alignment, make sure everything looks good.
- Check for rust particularly around the roof and more importantly around the wheel arches.
- Open the boot and take a look at the metal around the drain holes. It's a wet boot so don't worry if there are any water marks.
- Feel around the point where the seat belt joins the chassis for rust.
- If you can, pull away the rubber seal slightly from the roof to check for rust.
- The rear window surround is metal coated in vinyl. Push down on this in various places, any crunch noises or movement means rust is behind the vinyl.
- Check the door sills, run you finger underneath to feel for any rust build up.
- Check around the lights front and rear
- Check the bumpers
- Check the underside of the vehicle for rust and ask if it has been under-sealed. Worth doing and can cost around £400
- If you are viewing the car and the roof is down ask for it to be put up. Check for wear, marks, rips. Check the join around the edge, there should not be a gap greater than 1cm and you should certainly not be able to see any daylight from inside the car. Look for watermarks and drips that may indicate the roof has leaked.
- Check the leather seats for cracks and wear.
- Check the Stereo works including the CD player.
Under the Bonnet
- Is it clean, this might give you an insight into how much the owner cared about it.
- Smell, any scent of petrol is a very bad thing.
- Check the oil, any creamy substance on the stick may be an indicator of a head gasket failure.
- Check the radiator, unscrew the cap, mayonnaise in the water or under the cap indicates oil in the water. Bad sign - head gasket failure.
- Another test is to take the rad cap off while the engine is running, place your hand firmly over the radiator hole and pulsing sensation may indicate the same issue as above.
- Check for leaks, drips, cracked hoses. Engines are usually pretty dirty unless your owner has an OCD.
The Test Drive
Make sure you do a test drive. Make sure you are insured and make sure you bring the docs to prove it.While on the drive check off the following points:
- Does it start well? A cold start is a better test, if the engine felt warm when you were doing your checks then maybe it doesn't start well when cold and the owner knows this.
- As the engine starts look in the rear view mirror for blue smoke. Blue smoke is bad.
- Does the engine rev up to above 1k and then slowly drop to just below 1k and not jump around too much. Note, having the AC on will impact the engine revs. Also if the engine is hot and the radiator fan switches on the revs may also drop off. Remember the battery is small.
- As you pull away wind down the window and make sure you listen for noises, pings, grinds, knocks, could mean big problems.
- On a nice bit of road when the car shifts to second, put your foot down and make sure the automatic kicks down smoothly. Make sure the gear changes are generally smooth.
- As you accelerate, look for blue smoke in the rear view, it could mean turbo problems.
- The turbo on a Nissan Figaro doesn't actually "kick in", it should be smooth. The 987 cc engine isn't exactly going to push you into your seat but should feel the nippier end of sluggish ;)
- If you can, perform an emergency stop making sure the car doesn't pull right or left.
- Are there any knocking noises on uneven road surfaces, do the shocks and suspension feel reasonably OK. The figaro does wallow around a bit, so don't expect too much.
- As you turn the wheel the power steering should feel smooth and not make any whining noise.
- As you pull back into the drive, don't forget to look for oil spots and coolant leaks or better still park somewhere else and check where you were parked originally.
- Finally, check the engine temperature, make sure the engine is not running hot.
Closing the deal
Depending on the price you may be willing to accept the odd niggle from the list above. If, this would be rare, you find a perfect car then well done!Always haggle a bit but don't go too low, it will just antagonize the seller and if you want it and the price seems fair then make the offer. If you believe it is a good condition car priced between 5k and 6k then you may try to get a little more off to - for example - fix a patch of rust, recondition the roof, valet the car, etc.
Edit July 2013 - I would recommend you join the Figaro Owners Club, you get lots of advice and they have guides also.
Just what I was looking for, thank you!
ReplyDeleteMy pleasure, please feel free to share with your friends, I don't get many visitors to this guide, which is a shame as it took me AGES to write :)
DeleteThanks I just got a fig and no so little what to fo with it great to know some one cares enough to write this for us
ReplyDeleteHow nice of you. I have been so busy recently bit will be posting more up. I still love my little car!
DeleteI am looking to buy a figaro,I know they have only a small engine,but how do they run on steep hills,as I live in a very hilly place.And could you recommend a reliable stockist.
ReplyDeleteThey run very well on steep hills, in fact I went to the lake district in 2013 with the figaro owners club and we headed up a mountain pass which is considered one of the steepest roads in the UK. Nobody had any problems at all! As for stockists, I would recommend you head over to autotrader. http://www.autotrader.co.uk/
Deletethanks Chris, need all the advice I can get.how do they run in bad weather.? Are they ok at starting on a very cold day.? I will be printing of check list as I am in the process of viewing cars and I don:t want to get ripped off.
ReplyDeleteI'm looking to buy my first figaro and your advice is brilliant, just the kind of help I was after.
ReplyDeleteRegards Emma
Fantastic, great to hear, it would be great to hear back when you find one! Good luck
DeleteThankyou. Your guide has given me the confidence ( as a female) to go and look at one on my own,
ReplyDeleteSo informative and helpful. As a new Figaro owner I am really grateful & look forward to future articles! Thank you!
ReplyDeleteVery good advice. Thanks
ReplyDeleteVery good advice. Thanks
ReplyDeleteI saw this car for the first time today and I am SMITTEN. It is now my dream car. I'm in Australia. Any idea of a reasonable asking price here?
ReplyDeleteThat was so informative - thank-you, fabulous to read someone taking time out and giving good advice. I bought my figaro 9yrs ago and love it as much today as the day i bought it!
ReplyDeleteReally good information. Are all figures old or are some reproduction.
ReplyDeletethanks for the info !
ReplyDeleteand regarding the point you made :
"Does the engine rev up to above 1k and then slowly drop to just below 1k and not jump around too much. "
so if it does, it is healthy, right?
You are a legend! Thank you verry much! I hope that i will find a good one!
ReplyDeleteThank you so much, my wife is looking to purchase one this evening does will be reading this a few times today :)
ReplyDeleteWhat great information we show a classic mini but we our looking for a every day car we recently was talking to someone at a car show and really like this car as it has aircon auto power steering what do you think would be a good price for a good car today many thanks for your help Derek
ReplyDeleteThis is great. Thank you. Just about to move back to uk after living in NZ for 9 years and looking at buying a Figaro when I get back. Great job you have done here
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